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“Wait, Is This a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Why don’t we make some noise for your bottoms inside your home! (It is myself, the underside in the home.) Bottom customs happens to be quite anything™ using the internet recently! Exactly what does it really indicate becoming a bottom? The reason why contains the culture determined bottoming is just becoming worried to inquire about for just what you want? And how does one begin determining when they fancy bottoming?!

With all of these questions rattling around the minds, requiring responses, Drew and I realized there clearly was only 1 personals m4m we can easily visit for a curved, enthusiastic discussion about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA underneath Supreme. Chingy is one of the most readily useful people I’m sure composing and tweeting now, and as a bottom myself, i will be honored to call her my chief. Chingy allows us to tease down exactly what it way to end up being a bottom, exactly why she hates “smol bean” bottom society, your system as opening, along with your human anatomy as

entire

. It really is an extremely beautiful conversation, basically carry out say-so my self! Please understand that i know that I state “gorgeous” approximately three thousand instances this episode, and I am getting help for my situation. (the disorder is talking like 57 yr old white gay guy.)

And! Recently’s video game entails me speculating if the challenging plots Drew defines participate in a film or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is hard!


SHOW RECORDS

+ Browse Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow her
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+The following is a summary of all films that Drew used in the woman online game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Bringing-up Baby

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Dark Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris do the best work of her job in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one to sleep while clothed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

since you are entitled to that.


+Cindy Wilson on the B52s is very hot and frankly? “Love Shack” still whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I merely been bottoming since I had been, I’m not sure, dating back I can keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to Riches from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: dating back to i will remember, i desired to end up being a base, no, but method of

[intro performs]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thank you for visiting

Wait, So Is This a romantic date

?


Christina

:

Hold off, Is It a Date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast centered on one, the actual only real the biggest concern in our occasions: hold off, Is it a night out together?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly simply froze upwards indeed there.


Christina

: I happened to be like, oh crap, I found myself expected to say one thing! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m actually rapid towards the banter, my personal mind only… The reality is that I happened to be checking out over my online game records, which we’re not at but because we still have to introduce ourselves. Therefore, I’m going to attempt to remain concentrated on one job at a time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: My name is Drew Gregory, i will be a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans lady.


Christina

: Hi, i’m Christina Tucker, forgot my last name for a hot moment, no fuss. Im additionally an author at Autostraddle alongside spots on the internet, a podcaster, a gay black colored woman. That is types of it, dog, which is me personally.


Drew

: i really like it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: today the overall game.


Drew

: are we able to have fun with the game?


Christina

: are we able to get right to the game? I will inform you’re thrilled, I will let you know’re merely vibrating.


Drew

: therefore, i have been maintaining a dream record since 2007, while the idea of the online game is actually-


Christina

: I didn’t understand this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t as up to date now, I familiar with write-down all my ambitions and today it’s only when one thing truly sticks. But, the premise of your game is actually, am we explaining the story of an aspiration I got while I ended up being a teenager, or am we describing the story of a movie that we adored whenever I was actually a teenager?


Christina

: Oh man, fine.


Drew

: therefore, ways it will probably get is we’ll constantly explain it as an aspiration and also in the very first person. Very, when it was actually

Celebrity Wars,

I would wind up as, i am in room and I also’m battling as part of a rebellion, so there’s an evil  guy that is dressed in a black colored robot fit plus it ends up he’s my dad. That’s how I’ll explain it, the manner by which we explain fantasies, but often it will likely be a dream, often it’ll be from a motion picture. Ready?


Christina

: I’m something, I don’t know that i am prepared, but let us stone. Why don’t we see what I am able to do here.


Drew

: Okay, I’m on a beach and I also see this odd guy dressed in black. He tells me he’s dying and then we can play a-game to determine easily live or if the guy takes me personally. We have the ability to break free, but almost everywhere I-go, people are unwell and I also feel like Death remains after me.The merely pleased part occurs when We meet a theater troupe and they are lots of fun.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is a dream.


Drew

: This would be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: that is likely to be an actual gotcha on CT’s traditional film understanding, because the thing I realize that Drew, inside adolescence, wasn’t performing was actually viewing films that i’ll acknowledge. At this stage, I’m kind of hoping that I have seen not one of them. I think that’ll be more fun personally.


Drew

: the next one, I’m interviewing my children and a few Italian American gangsters. One of many gangsters needs that we provide over some funds, but my children and that I was able to escape. We escape through all this work arctic landscapes, on your way we satisfy an actress and connect to this lady. We land in a suburb. I do believe we are going to begin an innovative new life together until she requires me to a large mansion, and that I recognize it belongs to the gangster. It had been all a trap, the gangster comes there’s a confrontation. We kill him, the dream finishes with the celebrity executing a musical wide variety.


Christina

: Is it a film?


Drew

: this will be a dream I’d in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i must remember that its 2000, it is old school Drew mind. That’s what i need to bear in mind.


Drew

: In addition want, just what films was we viewing at that time and just how much performed that impact my aspirations?


Christina

: Well, yeah, plainly quite a lot!


Drew

: a great truth is that I was actually, i did not add this because I imagined this might have away, however the gangster was actually Tony Soprano because I became watching

The Sopranos

in 2008. Thus, which is an enjoyable small fact. Okay, next one, I have an essential assignment, but this hot woman appears and begins distracting myself. I wish to be along with her, but I additionally need to get my work completed, and so I tell her to go out of. She keeps following me personally. Suddenly, a leopard looks during my space and I also need to spend other countries in the dream attempting to find the leopard. I’m however truly stressed, We never complete might work, but about the girl is hot.


Christina

: This has is a dream of yours, it has becoming a Drew fantasy.


Drew

: This Might Be Howard Hawks’

Bringing-up Kid

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that’s an aspiration you have, this is the most Drew fantasy I’ve ever heard. Today at this stage, I’m only probably going to be rewriting flick history, to suit my whims.


Drew

: Great, I favor that. Okay, i am at a party and I cannot really like any individual there. Eventually, we see this woman, I once had a crush on and we also choose to leave together. We choose her house, however they are chased down by this set of men that attempting to kill the woman. We end on a beach plus it may seem like we will be okay before guys look for all of us. She eventually ends up getting into this additional guy, and so I grab cartoonish dynamite and determine to blow myself personally up


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: this will be! This can be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: have never viewed, but that sounds like a ding dang motion picture in my opinion.


Drew

: Great, I love it. There is a narration describing a strange motorboat like structure that’s impractical to destroy. I am going on a retreat nearby the design, the escape is kind of theater related, kind of spiritual. You will find a crush with this lady on escape, but she’s a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there’s lots of drama between myself and this also woman and her sweetheart, it closes beside me alone. There is a sequence exposing the ship construction is impractical to wreck because a mechanical arm fixes it within the night.


Christina

: that would be such a thing in a lot of means, i will say flick once again, why not?


Drew

: it really is a dream from 2011, that did have narration from some other person, you realize, it occurs!


Christina

: this is actually great promo to possess a dream journal, because I feel enjoy it could well be enjoyable easily could remember my fantasies this way.


Drew

: No person really likes whenever you describe the hopes and dreams in their mind. I do however, and I’m your own buddy, so if you like to jot down your goals and tell me, I would want to hear about them.


Christina

: Okay, which is very nice to listen.


Drew

: I have two even more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am in an attractive yard with a small grouping of friends, everyone seem to be getting up from getting drugged. We’re compelled to bathe in an acid that empties pigment and we also end up being blond and blue-eyed. People in control start training you to destroy, as it happens this place will be operate by a crazy dictator, I reject obtaining completely brainwashed. There’s this woman truth be told there I have a crush on and I also persuade this lady to flee with me, while leaking out I have recorded and killed, although lady becomes away. When she departs the jail, she understands we are in the middle of a forest so there’s no place going.


Christina

: Movie.


Drew

: That would be initial dream inside my dream journal from, I mentioned, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i usually thought it was fascinating that I pass away inside the fantasy, nevertheless other individual goes on on. However now, there’s some weird sex things taking place truth be told there, and that I’m browsing need remember this 1 for a while.


Christina

: surely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, You will find an additional.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i am considering the possiblity to be a ballerina, my personal mom insists I won’t manage to exercise. There is this additional lady inside tv show which i do believe is hot, but i am stressed she is going to change myself. I am battling in rehearsal, but end upwards leaving making use of lady, we connect. It is hot, but personally i think me shedding control, we go back to the dance tv series. My body is apparently morphing into something different, i am worried that i’ll mess up.


Christina

: that is a motion picture.


Drew

: Therefore,

Ebony Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that’s

Ebony Swan

, undoubtedly.


Drew

: Have you ever viewed

Ebony Swan

? That was one I was thinking you’ve seen.


Christina

: I’ve come across

Ebony Swan

, I… Fun fact, I proceeded a date with one observe

Dark Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: only directly things i did so.


Drew

: What was that like?


Christina

: Weird, it actually was weird.


Drew

: Did you just like the film? Did the guy such as the flick?


Christina

: i do believe, I had currently seen it, i believe I was love, “Let’s get find it once again.” I do believe, I was very pro

Dark Swan,

as well as for directly heterosexual reasons, definitely.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “That was weird.” And that I had been love, “Oh well, we’re not going to continue to day.”


Drew

: Wow, well If only him a, I hope he’s somewhere successful. Thank you so much for playing the game with me.


Christina

: Wow, i am very happy I moved two for however numerous we performed thereon.


Drew

: perhaps not awful.


Christina

: Not awful.


Drew

: You Probably Did much better than Elise did when I planned to find out if this is an operating video game which could work, and she had been my guinea pig. So, she just had gotten one right.


Christina

: Fair adequate.


Drew

: Should we proceed to all of our main subject of week?


Christina

: let us go into it, let’s have this unique guest in.


Drew

: Well, I would like to 1st point out that our primary topic of this week is bottoming, so we could only have one very unique visitor.


Christina

: It is only 1 individual.


Drew

: are you able to kindly present your self?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. Im a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather dyke muppet. I’m also The united states’s primary bottom.


Christina

: Yes, In my opinion whenever we were discussing subjects therefore’re like, “we can easily mention bottoming there’s actually singular person we could have regarding pod to accomplish this, there’s one person who is quite virtually the Supreme.”


Chingy

: Thanks a lot for knowing, it feels very good to possess your own success respected, many thanks


Christina

: Yes, therefore’ve completed fantastic work, and here we are recognizing it.


Drew

: I would like to understand whenever you feel just like you turned into America’s greatest bottom. Whenever was that a word and a label and an identity that you really held onto?


Chingy

: Well, thus I generally just state, “i am The Bottom Supreme.” Because, which cares about The usa?


Drew

: Positive.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Chingy

: Yeah, I think that i usually was really good at bottoming, but then in 2017 or something like that, I decided to go to a play celebration that was simply for fem top sadists conquering me right up for six to seven several hours directly, and it also was just myself, and I was like, “Oh, I’m the very best which is actually been.” After which, I think from there, i simply held increasing and being, wow, i am therefore fun to look at. Wow, I’m therefore entertaining as a bottom, this is exactly wow, every person whom gets to finest me personally is so lucky. And, it just went from there, i believe, right after which we published articles called I’m a far greater Bottom versus You. Listed Here Is Why. It had been sorts of a manifesto, it actually was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: indeed, can verify.


Chingy

: And, people have actually explained, “its altered how they evaluate sex.” And, i love that a lot. Oahu is the one article on my website that I written truth be told there. I have written at

Vice

,

Teenage Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was actually the initial spot we blogged, in fact. But yeah, that is the one weblog on my site, if you’d like to check it out.


Christina

: I adore a substantial brand name, Everyone loves knowing a brandname, and that I think’s truly attractive, only, brand name management of yours bottomy your self. I do believe, that is truly beautiful observe.


Chingy

: thanks, i obtained my first authorship possibility at

Autostraddle

because I became authoring getting a base, being poly, and being really strong into becoming a leather-based dyke. And since next, I started initially to write about a number of other stuff, but being bottom part supreme just form of will be the one through collection of every thing.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel just like you are an extremely productive base and in addition in the way that you come up with, and explore, and that I think knowledge bottoming that you’re really energetic. Whereas, i believe there are many the queer neighborhood, maybe, particularly the lesbian society, that possibly thinks about bottoming as… I don’t know-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, I usually say that there is much less soles than people believe tend to be soles. I do believe there’s a change between becoming a bottom and just unsure or seeking what you would like. I believe those are two entirely different things that people conflate.


Christina

: I would personally must concur, I additionally think the way in which you explore bottoming is actually, i am talking about, let’s simply say it, plenty less inconvenient compared to way a lot of people explore being a base or determine with bottom part society. Because, i actually do believe that exactly what many assert clearly or non explicitly is just, i’m idle nor proper care doing any kind of activity, activity, et-cetera, i’d like things completed to me personally. And, easily need certainly to look for that call at in whatever way, that hurts my personal feelings. And, you will be so great and thus strong at being, they are the issues that i’d like, bring these to me personally and I also will rock and roll your world. This is certainly attractive in my experience.


Chingy

: thank-you, after all, that is what you need to do is good at merely something, you have to place yourself available to you and attempt while making blunders and get damage a bit, and, I am not sure, learn from it.


Christina

: I think that is an effective information, frankly.


Chingy

: I’ve simply been bottoming since I was, I am not sure, dating back i could recall. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to wealth” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back to i will remember, i wished to be a bottom. No, but sorts of, whenever I was actually 13 or 14, I was currently examining BDSM web sites and lesbian SADO MASO sites. Thus, I becamen’t under any delusions with what I was about, I found myself having ladies we dated in high school choke myself aside, I realized the things I wanted. And therefore, that amount of consciousness has just provided me quite a long time to know what i’d like and figure out how to have it.


Christina

: Beautiful, Drew, offer me how you feel on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m actually really thrilled to speak about this because i’m like in 2019 {when I|as I|while

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